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Why do we pray?
« on: October 30, 2007, 02:34:41 PM »
Ok, so if God is in control of everything why do we have to pray?

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 12:51:23 AM »
We pray because we need to talk to God.  It keeps us from thinking it is all about us.  It keeps us focused on the fact that God is in control.  We need to pray so we can keep a lid on our vanity.  We need to keep things in perspective.  We need to continue to spend time with God so He can show us, little by little, how awesome He truly is; and how much He loves us. 

Prayer is our time to also let go of stuff.  We can take it to the cross and leave it there.  Give it to Him.  He asks us to give Him our burdens and to take His yoke because it is light.  How awesome is that? 

Also, He loves us so much He wants us to spend time with Him.

He is so awesome.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 10:35:17 AM »
Whoever said that God is in control of everything? I don't believe He is UNTIL we pray.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 12:56:40 PM »
We pray because we need to talk to God.  It keeps us from thinking it is all about us.  It keeps us focused on the fact that God is in control.  We need to pray so we can keep a lid on our vanity.  We need to keep things in perspective.  We need to continue to spend time with God so He can show us, little by little, how awesome He truly is; and how much He loves us. 

Prayer is our time to also let go of stuff.  We can take it to the cross and leave it there.  Give it to Him.  He asks us to give Him our burdens and to take His yoke because it is light.  How awesome is that? 

Also, He loves us so much He wants us to spend time with Him.

He is so awesome.

Ro



So, are you talking about fellowship or prayer?  I'm confused.


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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 12:57:35 PM »
Whoever said that God is in control of everything? I don't believe He is UNTIL we pray.

Ann


An interesting viewpoint.  Why don't you think God is in control of everything?


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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 03:08:29 PM »
Tim,

I believe that God is good and what He does is good. What is happening in many places is not good. If a child was molested, I don't believe that God was in control of that. There are many things He is not in control of.

That's WHY we need to pray, or at least one of the reasons. Is He in control of a sinner's heart? No way. That's why salvation is needed.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 11:14:41 PM »
Interesting, Ann.  So how does prayer allow God to change a person if he isn't in control?


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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 10:17:23 AM »
Tim,

I believe that God the Father will give us whatever we ask for, in Jesus' Name. There are several verses in the Bible which say that.

I'm not sure whether your question is referring to the person who's doing the praying needing to be changed, or if you're referring instead to praying for another person. If the Lord was not in charge of my life (or in control, as you used that word), I would ask Him (that is, Jesus in this case) to be the Lord of my life.

What I have done several times over the many years of my Christian walk is to check with the Holy Spirit who lives in me, asking Him if there was any area of my heart where I'm not trusting in (based on Proverbs 3, which says that we're to trust in Him with ALL our hearts). Then, I'd listen to the small, still voice within and amend whatever area of my heart where I felt He was not in control of it, asking Him to be the Lord of (or in control of) that area of my heart...then, a change would take place.

Yesterday, as I was praying, I told Him that I give Him my "all." That leaves nothing out. It includes everything. The spiritual warfare (attacks, conflicts in my inner being) then stopped. I realized that I'd been holding onto some things. Once I gave them to Him, by saying that I give Him my "all," that included the warfare, the conflicts, the pain, all sickness and disease and infirmity, as well as my finances, relationships, ministry, time, everything.

The thought that came to mind was that "All means all." Yeah, now I'm ALL His. I don't belong to myself, but to Him. It's then His reponsibility to take care of me instead of my trying to take care of any part of myself.

Now, if you're referring to praying for another person, that's an entirely different story. Each person has a free will, given to them by God. With it (with their will, which is a part of their heart, according to Strong's concordance...not their soul, as has been commonly taught), they make choices or decisions as to who or what they allow to control their lives.

It's up to the individual to choose whether or not they want Jesus to control their lives or whether they want to control their own destiny. That's why intercession on behalf of others is needed, so that they can come to the full realization of how good God is. Most people have the wrong image of God in their minds, thinking of Him as a cruel taskmasker or another image, painted there by what they've heard or read about Him.

What they need to know is that He's a loving, heavenly Father who has good things for them to experience. That's what true repentance is all about, a change of heart and soul and mind. As we pray for others, believing that God hears us when we pray, He will do it.

It's all about a walk of faith. As we study the Bible more and more, we come to see this...that without faith, it's impossible to please God (but with faith, it is possible). Faith without works, however, is dead...but faith WITH WORKS is alive.

As we seek the Lord (through prayer) communing with the Holy Spirit, and read the Bible to understand His character, we will be changed. He takes us from glory to glory (from experience to experience).

God will control anyone who wants Him to do this for them. I personally was desperate. My entire life was out of control. As you know, I was in mental institutions before coming to Christ. Well, I could go on. Prayer is one of my favorite subjects. It's my communication with God.

If I don't hear His voice (His sheep hear His voice), I'm at a loss of what to do. Without Him, I'm nothing. But, with Him, I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 12:40:58 AM »
Retrospectively,

If Jesus prayed when He was in the world, don't we need to pray?

Prayer in a level is the fellowship with our Father in heaven.

As much as we like to be in His presence, He also loves to hear us.

Being a father of a 5 year old bundle of energy, I cherish every moment I spend with my son. In fact I designed my life so that I can spend as my time as possible with him.

I think it's the same with my heavenly father too.

He longs to talk to me, enjoy my fellowship and God, I need to pray and pray often.

Thanks Tim. Thanks for helping me think about the love that spared not his own son,

Man, I'm in tears as I type this,

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 02:39:02 AM »
You're most welcome, Edward.  It's nice to see you participating in the forum.


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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2008, 03:01:52 PM »
Why do we pray?

Tim asked us why do we pray.  I pray because in the scriptures Jesus asks me to pray, and we are instructed to follow Jesus words.  When Jesus disciples said Rabbi teach us how to pray; Jesus taught them to say, Abba...and we all know the rest of the words.

I can imagine this may have come as a bit of a shock to these men; calling Almighty God Abba.  What do you think about this?  Do you think this is right that we address God as Abba?

Jesus also told His disciples, I do nothing without first consulting My Father, and the disciples watched Jesus retreat to quiet places, and they must have known where He was going, and I don't imagine they disturbed Him either, because this was His time alone with His Father.

One gets the impression Jesus didn't just disappear into a place of prayer when things got tough, but as I read the scriptures I have that sense He was  in this place of prayer and communion with His Father as often as time would permit.  We know that  Jesus and His Father are One; they were only ever separated once.

When was that?

I'll leave that subject for another occasion.

When I have neglected to pray, boy have I noticed the difference in my life.  It's like things just aren't going the right way, and I'm like a car that's gone down the wrong road; I look out the window, and I am in unfamiliar territory and I'm thinking oh panic, where am I; where's the Lord?  Right, stop everything, and go and pray.

I stop everything, and I go to my room, and I look to the Lord, and I pray to Him, and then everything just slots right back into place; yeah, just like that.  All is well again, and I am smiling once more.  So I realise that neglecting to pray each day isn't a good idea.

I watched a husband and wife on the TV, and she woke up in the morning, and she turned and looked at her husband sleeping.  Her eyes were filled with such love, and then he stirred from his sleep, and he turned to her, and  she greeted him so warmly, speaking words of affection, and I thought of Song of Solomon.

We are told Song of Solomon is a symbolic of the love God has for us.  It's that union of love that is above all earthly love; it's a love that caused our Father to allow Jesus to give His life as a sacrifice for our sins.  I don't know of any parent that would willingly give their son up as a sacrifice for someone else's sins.  I would not hand my son over to a government to sacrifice him for anything.  That's made me cry writing that last sentence.

It’s our instincts to want to hold on to our children and protect them, and Jesus says God is our Father.  So, God has all the attributes of a parent; he hurts, He cries, He feels pain and sorrow, He longs to embrace His children, He heals us and He dries away our tears.  These are just a few things our heavenly Father does for us His sons and daughters.

He suffers with us, and so when I turn to Him to pray, and my heart is hurting, He feels my hurt, like I feel the hurt of my son and daughter when they hurt.  When I say daughter, I'm your mum come close to me and let me hold you and love you, and take your pain away; God will do no less than I do as a parent.  He will do even more than I can do because He is God, and He is our Creator.

So, I think it is Paul that tells us in scripture to approach our Father with confidence; we're not to come to Him with trepidation, half hearted, thinking, oh will God hear me, will He be too busy to listen to Me?  Is God tired of my daily ramblings; have I given Him ear ache?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

God doesn't get ear ache, and when our children come to us, and we go weak at the knees and our eyes water, and we think, aren't they incredible; God feels like that about us every single time we turn our faces to Him with the intention of praying.

How do I know this is true?  The reason I know this is true is because I have heard the Lord tell me He looks forward to me coming to Him to pray.

I'll leave you with a verse of scripture, and I pray the truth of His word will wash over you and me like wave upon wave of love.

 “ O my dove, in the clefts of the rock,
      In the secret places of the cliff,
      Let me see your face,
      Let me hear your voice;
      For your voice is sweet,
      And your face is lovely.” Song of Solomon 2:14
Trust in the Lord no matter how bad your situation seems, and don't think or worry about what's going on.  Concentrate your thoughts on the Lord and just ask the Holy Spirit to strengthen you and help you to pray the right prayers.  Pray earnestly, forgiving every single person that sins against you

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 09:17:52 AM »
I pray because I love God and I enjoy his company.  It's a relationship.  We talk together about life and I couldn't get through my life without his guidance and friendship.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 07:57:19 PM »
Dee, That is awesome!  You hit the nail on the head.  It is about our relationship with him. 

If we have a relationshp with him we will talk to him and that is what prayer is. 

Spending time with those we love is just something we do.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2008, 06:51:29 AM »
We pray to change our life.  A prayer similar to this prayer changed my life:

Dear God,

I’ve never prayed much. I’ve never been sure You were really there. Today I want to connect with You. I believe that You sent Jesus to die on the cross. I believe You brought Him back to life again. Thank you that Jesus provided a bridge for me to connect with You. I ask that You would forgive my wilful, stubborn ways. Please help me to break free of the wayward life I chose and to follow in Your ways. Help me to grow in my understanding of You. Please lead me in news ways, God. Teach me to pray as I follow You with my whole heart. I pray this prayer in the name of Jesus who died in my place, amen.

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Re: Why do we pray?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 07:13:57 AM »
Joy, 

Thank you that is beautiful. 

God is so good to us all the time.  He is the loving Father we desperately need.  We have a loving Savior who paid an awesome price for each one of us.  The Holy Spirit is our comforter promised to us by Jesus before he left. 

God has us covered.  He loves us with an everlasting love. 

It just does not get any better than that.

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